Text: Carl Grinde Date: 26 Juli 2012
Updated January 23 2018
Signs on the end times and the great tribulation
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What is the rapture?
The rapture is the teaching within christianity that God will bring home his congregation, his true children, those who truly love him, and that God will do this in a supernatural way. It will happen in a moment all over the earth at the same time when people suddenly disappear into thin air. These people will go directly to paradise. All others who is not taken will be left behind, and even many people in the Church, the Christian churches will be left. They will be left behind because they don't really love Jesus nor live for him, but for their own selfishness. The big problem with the rapture is that we don't know exactly how or when it will happen. Some Christians believe that it will happen before the great tribulation that Bible prophecy speaks of. That would mean that those who are taken up to heaven will be saved from the terrible suffering that will come on Earth. Others believe that the rapture of the church will take place after the great tribulations and that all Christians will have to suffer through the last days on Earth which will be a suffering without parallel in history.
I believe in a pre-trib rapture, time is short.
We´re approaching the great tribulation, time is reaching it's last phase
I'm very interested in the question of rapture and since we do not know exactly how and when it is easy to change the perception and opinion.
I have written, linked to both the pre-trib and post-trib. Right now it feels most logical for me that the rapture happens before the great tribulation, and that means it could happen at any time.
We can agree on one thing and that is that we do not know either when or how this will happen, but it will happen at some point.
I think that the Temple in Jerusalem must be rebuilt first, and the Antichrist must reveal himself.
But I think that the rapture is very close. I think that the dead in Christ will be resurrected first. This will happen in one moment over the whole world when the graves on the cemeteries will be opened and the dead will come to life and fly up to heaven in white shiny clothes.
After this will be who remain in Christ and are alive be brought up to heaven. But we don't know how long time after the resurrection of the dead this will be.
One thing that can happen any moment now is that we might suffer persecution for our faith. The great tribulation awaits around the corner.
There will be great distress
For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now--and never to be equaled again.
"If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
They will put you out of the synagogues. Indeed, the hour is coming when whoever kills you will think he is offering service to God.
Watch therefore always so that you will be counted worthy to escape those things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.
Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all die, but we shall all be changed,
in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
1 Corinthians 15:51-52
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Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
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Will the Rapture happen after the Great Tribulation? or in the middle of it?
One thing that speaks for the rapture to occur after of the great tribulation is Ken Peters prophetic dream.
God gave him the dream when he was atheist, or atleast not Christian. He had the dream 20 years ago and it describes the new world order very detailed, for example the digital home where all the people are voluntarily monitored 24 hours.
In his dream he sees how all the people who have died in Christ is resurrected and the graves opened in a supernatural way. The tombs almost exploded open and all true Christians who had died start living and float up to heaven in glorified
bodies dressed in white shining garments. This happened simultaneously all over the earth in all graveyards and there was chaos everywhere. In the dream he did not see the Christians who lived also transformed and floated up to the sky. He saw no such thing happen in the context of that vision.
What he saw was that all people on that day were very distressed. Everyone had a facial expression as if they had lost their mother that day. Everyone were appalled and shocked. I would guess that the mark of the Beast will come broadly in society right after this.
It says in the Bible that the dead in Christ will meet God first. If God does something like this it will be a huge wake up call for all Christians. Even the Christian who sleeps hardest will be wide awake. Oooooooopps! Oops, Ouch! Not good at all.
The new world order is just about to start any moment now. God must do something concrete to shake us and wake us.
Do we support the antichrist and the beast? Do we vote on them? If you accept the mark of the beast you will do it. It is about your eternal salvation. Your eternal fellowship with Jesus.
God has allowed terrible things happening to his church before. Ken Peters saw in his dream how his wife was beheaded. He also saw a corridor that was sort several kilometers long. In it was an endless queue of people. Everyone took a step foreward every 10 minutes. Some fainted.
They waited to decide whether they would deny God or not. To be beheaded or not. In the dream the executioner, the headsman did not use the name of Jesus. The executioner just said, denying HIM now. Denying him.
It also says in the Bible that the beast was given power to battle against the saints and to overcome them.
The great period of sorrow, the worst suffering ever in the world's history
This period will be the most terrible and horrendous time ever in the world history because society will tolerate evil and all kinds of lawlessness.
God's judgements will also hit the Earth, seven bowls of God's wrath shall be emptied over the earth. There will be earthquakes, famine, war, hatred, persecution, general wickedness and hostility.
This period will be the most terrible and horrific time in Earth's history ever because society will tolerate evil and all kinds of lawlessness.
It will be a global antichrist kingdom that will rule the whole world during this tribulation.
The King James Bible translation will probably be prohibited and illegal. Only one new Bible translation, a liberal version will be allowed.
Many christian churches will be included in this satanic antichrist religion. UNITY will be the lead word. All people will accept a microchip in their right arm or forehead so they can buy and sell, use digital money. The propchecies of the Book of Revelation will be totally denied.
All people will bow down and worship the image of the beast. I think this will include the Maitreya statue and global live TV broadcast themed "holy hour", "loving kindness", "Universal love" etc.
All homes will be monitored with live cameras installed in their TV's 24/7. Whey you bow down infront of your TV your camera, "the All seing eye" will see you with facial recognition.
If you don't bow down you will be killed. Satan will get totally free politically and spiritually leeway. Either you give you life to antichrist and Satan and bow down before him. Or you give your life to Jesus.
Here are various videos and pages about the rapture after the great tribulation
I do not agree with these views but publish links anyway for those who want to watch.
Arguments for a post-tribulation rapture
Here are arguments for a post-tribulation rapture. Jesus says on several places: "I will raise him up at the last day."
John 6:39, John 6:40, John 6:44,
This speaks for a rapture of the congregation at the very last, at the end of the world/ time, where the world as we know it today is over.
On the other hand, it is stated in the Book of Revelation: "Blessed and holy is he that has part in the first resurrection: on such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years."
The time for the rapture is not clear
This Bible word confuses: "Blessed and holy are those who are partakers of the first resurrection, over whom the second death has no power." Revelation 20: 6
The Book of revelation also speaks of "the rest of the dead" who did not start living again until after 1000 years and they can not rule with Christ during the 1000 years. These people seem to be those who do not belong to the church of God.
Again, we have the verses where Jesus says, "I will raise him up on the last day." This makes the question of the time of the rapture quite difficult to answer.
"And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given to them: and I saw the souls of those who were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Blessed and holy is he that has part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years."
The abomination of desolation said to be the start of the great tribulation.
When you therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (he who reads must pay attention:)
Then those who are in Judaea must flee into the mountains:
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitts in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2 Thessalonians 2 1-4
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But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
But in those days, after that tribulation
But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
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Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
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